What does Moses 8:22 mean?

What does Moses 8:22 mean?

Question

Gramps,

What does it mean in the sentence, “Every man was lift up in the imagination of the though of his heart, being only evil continually” as said in Moses 8:22 Why would the Lord continue to teach hardhearted people while its a waste of time and while we have better things to do. Please help me to understand this

Dallas 

 

Answer

Dallas,

 Would you consider it a waste of time if there was the possibility that even one might be saved? Or the possibility that the hearts of the people might be changed?  I would hope that God would never think that it was just a waste of time.

John Taylor had this to say:

“Let me ask, what did the Lord do before He sent the flood? He sent Noah among them as a preacher of righteousness; He sent Enoch; He sent many Elders among the people, and they prophesied to them that unless they repented, judgment would overtake them; that God would overwhelm the earth with a flood and destroy the inhabitants thereof…

Thus we see the dealings of God with those people. Noah had nothing to do but to preach the Gospel, and obey the word of the Lord. We have nothing to do but attend to the same things. We then leave the inhabitants of the earth in the hands of God. It is not for us to judge them; for the Lord says: “judgment is mine and I will repay.” (Journal of Discourses, 26 vols. [London: Latter-day Saints’ Book Depot, 1854-1886], 24: 292-293)

Noah tried with all of his might to preach the gospel and to bring the wicked to repentance.  God realized that their hearts were hardened, and wickedness was the continual thought of the people.  Therefore He proclaimed that He would cleanse the earth of wickedness.  This is where the flood comes into play as described in the scriptures.

Hartman Rector, Jr. had this to say:

“I believe that families are under a more serious attack today than at any time since the beginning of the world, with the possible exception of the days of Noah. It must have been bad then too. Maybe we today are not quite as bad as they were. Moses recorded in the Book of Genesis: “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” (Gen. 6:5.) I don’t believe I have ever known anyone quite that bad, whose “every thought was evil continually.” (“Turning the Hearts,” Ensign, May 1981, 73)

Gramps

Can those denied the Priesthood previously have it done by proxy?

Can those denied the Priesthood previously have it done by proxy?

Question

Gramps,

My wife and I were rereading the Pearl of Great Price last night. The verses are found in the Book of Abraham, Chapter 1:25-27. Specifically in verse 25 it states that Pharaoh was the eldest son of Egyptus who was the daughter of Ham. In the following verse we read that “Pharaoh, being a righteous man, established his kingdom and judged his people wisely and justly all his days.”   And then in the following verse we read that Pharaoh could not have the priesthood due to his lineage. We are interested in this as our adopted son is African American and we want to have answers when he asks about why those of his race were denied the priesthood until President Spencer W. Kimball changed that when I was a small boy. Since one cannot receive the temple endowment without receiving the priesthood, does this mean that those denied this in life can now have this done by way of proxy?

Michael (more…)

The Earth’s Creation

The Earth’s Creation

D&C 77:12 says the earth was sanctified on the seventh day of creation just as it will be sanctified for the millennium. Does this mean that the earth was changed from Telestial (when prehistoric life could live and die – see Abr. Chp. 4) to Terrestrial before Adam was created on the seventh day? Abr. 5:5 says the Gods caused it not to rain while they counceled on the sixth day to finish their work on the seventh day (see Abr. 5:2 & 4:26). Does this mean that the Gods caused the 10,000 BC mega fauna extinction to eliminate all (not just mega) prehistoric fauna? If so, does this mean we know when prehistoric life was on the earth and what happened to it?

Steven (more…)

How will the earth be renewed to its paradisaical glory?

How will the earth be renewed to its paradisaical glory?

Question

Dear Gramps,

Thank you so much for your answers to questions. It is so enlightening. I am wondering about the earth’s renewal to it’s previous state of glory. I know that Brigham Young stated that when the earth was created that it was near the throne of God, and when Adam and Eve fell that the earth also fell into our solar system.  Is there any statement that when it is renewed it will return back to where it previously was? It makes sense to me. The reason I ask is because one of the signs of the second coming is the sun being darkened and the stars falling from the sky. It would seem to me that if the earth were suddenly thrust from where it now is to somewhere else in the cosmos that our sun would suddenly seem to be darkened and it would appear the stars were falling from the sky. Do you have any comments or references on this subject. Thanks so much.

Sandy

 

Answer

Sandy,

There are many scriptural references which speak of the darkening of the sun and moon and the falling of the stars as it concerns the second coming of Christ. When we remember that much of what is written in these accounts is symbolic and that the concepts of light, spirit, and intelligence are all intricately connected, we can see that what is to come is a type of things which have already been.

If, for example, you were to read Revelations 8 and 9 with our premortal existence in mind, you would notice some interesting connections. Take Revelations 8:12-

“And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.”

Replace stars with spirits, and you will recognize its correlation to D&C 29:36 –

“And it came to pass that Adam, being tempted of the devil—for, behold, the devil was before Adam, for he rebelled against me, saying, Give me thine honor, which is my power; and also a third part of the hosts of heaven turned he away from me because of their agency.”

Before Christ comes to earth again, we will see a literal manifestation of these signs in the heavens, just as they did at his resurrection and before he visited the Nephites.

“But behold, as I said unto you concerning another sign, a sign of his death, behold, in that day that he shall suffer death the sun shall be darkened and refuse to give his light unto you; and also the moon and the stars; and there shall be no light upon the face of this land, even from the time that he shall suffer death, for the space of three days, to the time that he shall rise again from the dead.” Helaman 14:20

Even now, there are stars which will blink out for various periods of time, refusing to shine (D&C 34:9). We can see the light of these pulsar stars as they rotate, but for reasons still unknown to scientists such stars will “turn-off” and after a certain time turn back on. There is hope that research into these stars will bring us a better understanding of the nature of light itself. We do know that it is a regular phenomenon, which has nothing at all to do with the movement of the earth but rather with the nature of the stars themselves and the light which shines forth from them. So these signs have happened, are happening, and will continue to happen without the earth having to be knocked out of it’s orbit at all.

Brigham Young’s statement that the earth was once close to God and will return there is actually related to an entirely different scientific theory- the Big Bang. Here is Brigham’s statement:

“When the earth was framed and brought into existence and man was placed upon it, it was near the throne of our Father in heaven. And when man fell – though that was designed in the economy, there was nothing about it mysterious or unknown to the Gods, they understood it all, it was all planned – but when man fell, the earth fell into space, and took up its abode in this planetary system, and the sun became our light. When the Lord said – “Let there be light,” there was light, for the earth was brought near the sun that it might reflect upon it so as to give us light by day, and the moon to give us light by night. This is the glory the earth came from, and when it is glorified it will return again unto the presence of the Father, and it will dwell there, and these intelligent beings that I am looking at, if they live worthy of it, will dwell upon this earth.” Brigham Young Journal of Discourses, 17:161

According to the Big Bang Theory, all of matter, even time itself, was created and began with an explosion. Everything is expanding outward from the center point of that explosion and will continue to do so until the purposes of our time and creation have been fulfilled. It is believed by scientists that at some point in our future, the universe will reverse its expansion and instead be drawn inward. Abraham’s vision of the heavens supports this theory and give us an even greater understanding of the placement of the stars:

“And the Lord said unto me: These are the governing ones; and the name of the great one is Kolob, because it is near unto me, for I am the Lord thy God: I have set this one to govern all those which belong to the same order as that upon which thou standest.

And the Lord said unto me, by the Urim and Thummim, that Kolob was after the manner of the Lord, according to its times and seasons in the revolutions thereof; that one revolution was a day unto the Lord, after his manner of reckoning, it being one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest. This is the reckoning of the Lord’s time, according to the reckoning of Kolob.

And the Lord said unto me: The planet which is the lesser light, lesser than that which is to rule the day, even the night, is above or greater than that upon which thou standest in point of reckoning, for it moveth in order more slow; this is in order because it standeth above the earth upon which thou standest, therefore the reckoning of its time is not so many as to its number of days, and of months, and of years…

And thus there shall be the reckoning of the time of one planet above another, until thou come nigh unto Kolob, which Kolob is after the reckoning of the Lord’s time; which Kolob is set nigh unto the throne of God, to govern all those planets which belong to the same order as that upon which thou standest.” (Abraham 3:3-5 & 9)

Gramps

Who was the first mortal to be bestowed with the gift of the Holy Ghost?

Who was the first mortal to be bestowed with the gift of the Holy Ghost?

Dear Gramps,

I have just prepared and taught lesson eight, “The Holy Ghost”. I found it to both instructive and inspiring. Particularly, gaining an understanding how Peter could have denied the knowing of the Saviour and the apostles losing heart following the Saviour’s death. However one question was asked which could not be answered and I was hoping you might help. Was the gift of the Holy Ghost first bestowed following the Saviour’s resurrection or during the early days of the Old Testament/Book of Mormon. In other words, who do we know was the first mortal to be bestowed with the gift of the Holy Ghost?

Anthony, from England

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What is known about Abraham going to Egypt and teaching the Egyptians about the stars and solar systems?

Gramps,

What is known about Abraham going to Egypt and teaching the Egyptians about the stars and solar systems? It mentions it in the Pearl of Great Price. Why did they believe him? They obviously valued this information as the kings used this to build their pyramids. What did he teach them? Is it recorded anywhere? Why did he do this-was he paid or instructed from the Lord?

Bobbye, from Indiana

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If God is eternal and we are too, then what made  God our Heavenly Father before us?

If God is eternal and we are too, then what made God our Heavenly Father before us?

Dear Gramps,

I have a question. If God is eternal and we are too, then what made God our Heavenly Father before us, since our intelligences have both no beginning (We are all eternal).Our ages (if you can speak of age) are the same. What factor decided that God came forth from the intelligences to become a spiritual being before us. And His father before him. And those who will come after us. Again we have always lived, there was no beginning or end. Regards

David, from Europe

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What is the final dispensation of the original papyrus that the Book of Abraham was translated from?

What is the final dispensation of the original papyrus that the Book of Abraham was translated from?

Hi Brother Gorton,

I seem to find myself in need of asking you another question. The thing is that I have been asked about the Book of Abraham. I felt as if I were a child for not knowing the answer. Would you happen to know the final dispensation of the original papyrus that the book of Abraham was translated from? I thank you ahead of time for I know if any one knows this it will be you.

Richard, from Georgia

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