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		By: Allison Van Dussen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/does-the-bible-mention-the-book-of-mormon/#comment-33751&quot;&gt;seeker of truth&lt;/a&gt;.

Notice Gramps stopped short of verses 21 and 22 which clearly explain what God was asking of Ezekiel. The Lord was providing His people an object lesson via Ezekiel and the sticks, showing how He was going to bring His divided people out of among the nations and make them whole, one nation. As far as the other comment regarding the writing on sticks.  Go to Google images and type in &quot;ancient writing on sticks&quot; and you will see that it was very common. No scrolls needed.]]></description>
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<p>Notice Gramps stopped short of verses 21 and 22 which clearly explain what God was asking of Ezekiel. The Lord was providing His people an object lesson via Ezekiel and the sticks, showing how He was going to bring His divided people out of among the nations and make them whole, one nation. As far as the other comment regarding the writing on sticks.  Go to Google images and type in &#8220;ancient writing on sticks&#8221; and you will see that it was very common. No scrolls needed.</p>
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		By: CalPaul1949		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2015 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/does-the-bible-mention-the-book-of-mormon/#comment-33751&quot;&gt;seeker of truth&lt;/a&gt;.

A careful examination of &quot;scrolls&quot; would show you that they were wrapped around sticks.  You didn&#039;t write on sticks.  You wrote on the papyrus that was wrapped around them.  Moreover, in ancient times contracts were drawn up on scrolls, and then the contract was broken in two, a half given to each party of the contract.  This verse in in Ezekiel alludes to that.  When the two halves (the stick(book) of the Jews, and the stick of Joseph are combined, they form a whole, and a stronger testimony of the divinity of Christ. An irrevocable law of heaven is that in the mouth of two or more witnesses shall the truth of all things be made known.(2 Corinthians 13:1)   Indian and Spanish histories of the Indians of Mesoamerica also testify of the events mentioned in the Book of Mormon.  None of these were available to Joseph Smith.  None were translated into English until the 20th century.]]></description>
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<p>A careful examination of &#8220;scrolls&#8221; would show you that they were wrapped around sticks.  You didn&#8217;t write on sticks.  You wrote on the papyrus that was wrapped around them.  Moreover, in ancient times contracts were drawn up on scrolls, and then the contract was broken in two, a half given to each party of the contract.  This verse in in Ezekiel alludes to that.  When the two halves (the stick(book) of the Jews, and the stick of Joseph are combined, they form a whole, and a stronger testimony of the divinity of Christ. An irrevocable law of heaven is that in the mouth of two or more witnesses shall the truth of all things be made known.(2 Corinthians 13:1)   Indian and Spanish histories of the Indians of Mesoamerica also testify of the events mentioned in the Book of Mormon.  None of these were available to Joseph Smith.  None were translated into English until the 20th century.</p>
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		By: L O		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2015 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/does-the-bible-mention-the-book-of-mormon/#comment-34190&quot;&gt;HJH3&lt;/a&gt;.

Clearly this was answered by seeker of truth, Stating in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) the Hebrew word translated “stick” 
always refers to wood and is never used, even figuratively, to mean a 
scroll or book. 
This is the general consensus of all Biblical scholars.]]></description>
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<p>Clearly this was answered by seeker of truth, Stating in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) the Hebrew word translated “stick”<br />
always refers to wood and is never used, even figuratively, to mean a<br />
scroll or book.<br />
This is the general consensus of all Biblical scholars.</p>
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		By: HJH3		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/does-the-bible-mention-the-book-of-mormon/#comment-33751&quot;&gt;seeker of truth&lt;/a&gt;.

So they are writing something &quot;on wood&quot;, but my question is what proves it wasnt the book of mormon being written? It says that both that are written will become one. And the bible and book of mormon both proclaim about christ and his sacrifices. 
What are your thoughts?
Thanks.]]></description>
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<p>So they are writing something &#8220;on wood&#8221;, but my question is what proves it wasnt the book of mormon being written? It says that both that are written will become one. And the bible and book of mormon both proclaim about christ and his sacrifices.<br />
What are your thoughts?<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		By: seeker of truth		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2015 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apologies,  but I have a serious problem with your interpretation of this particular passage in Ezekiel.  Here is why:
&quot;A careful examination of this passage reveals serious problems with this interpretation. First of all, in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) the Hebrew word translated “stick” always refers to wood and is never used, even figuratively, to mean a scroll or book. Therefore, nothing in these verses even suggests a book or scroll.Secondly, the Mormon Church’s interpretation ignores the historical background of Ezekiel’s message. At the time of the prophet Ezekiel (6th century B.C.), the nation of Israel was in turmoil. Since shortly after the time of Solomon, it had been divided into two kingdoms. The ten northern tribes, henceforth called Israel, had earlier been taken captive by the nation of Assyria in 723/722 B.C. Then the two southern tribes (the Kingdom of Judah), were taken into captivity by the Babylonians (606 – 583 B.C.). The dissolution of God’s covenant people was extremely distressing for the remnant of faithful Hebrew believers. It appeared that God’s promises had failed. This is the setting for chapter 37.So what is Ezekiel’s message to the beleaguered Hebrew believers? In the midst of their despair and pain, Ezekiel gives a two-part message of comfort and hope from God. The first part (verses 1-14) contains the well-known vision of the valley of dry bones. Through that vision, Israel’s God pledges to breathe new life into the dry and scattered nation of Israel and bring the people back into the land. For those who have read this passage it is quite a picture with those dry bones being miraculously brought to life.Then, in verses 15-22, God promises a future restoration for the whole nation, and announces that some day the northern kingdom, called “Joseph,” and the southern kingdom, called “Judah,” would once again be a united Israel.It is here that we find the meaning of the “sticks” that are joined together in Ezekiel 37:15-22. In verse 16 Ezekiel is told to write on one stick “For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions.” This first stick represented the southern kingdom, or Judah. On a second stick, or piece of wood, Ezekiel was to write, “For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions.” This represented the northern kingdom, called Israel.God then tells Ezekiel, in verse 17, to join the two sticks into one stick and have them become one in Ezekiel&#039;s hand. In doing so, God is saying that He will bring back together His divided and decimated people. That this is the meaning of the two sticks and their being joined together is stated very explicitly in verses 21-22.And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.The prophecy of Ezekiel 37:16-17 has a specific historical context. It is a prediction of the future unity of God’s divided covenant people. The attempt by the Mormon Church to make this passage a prediction regarding the Book of Mormon violates the clear historical, grammatical context of the passage, and is thus a fallacious interpretation of this Biblical passage.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies,  but I have a serious problem with your interpretation of this particular passage in Ezekiel.  Here is why:<br />
&#8220;A careful examination of this passage reveals serious problems with this interpretation. First of all, in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) the Hebrew word translated “stick” always refers to wood and is never used, even figuratively, to mean a scroll or book. Therefore, nothing in these verses even suggests a book or scroll.Secondly, the Mormon Church’s interpretation ignores the historical background of Ezekiel’s message. At the time of the prophet Ezekiel (6th century B.C.), the nation of Israel was in turmoil. Since shortly after the time of Solomon, it had been divided into two kingdoms. The ten northern tribes, henceforth called Israel, had earlier been taken captive by the nation of Assyria in 723/722 B.C. Then the two southern tribes (the Kingdom of Judah), were taken into captivity by the Babylonians (606 – 583 B.C.). The dissolution of God’s covenant people was extremely distressing for the remnant of faithful Hebrew believers. It appeared that God’s promises had failed. This is the setting for chapter 37.So what is Ezekiel’s message to the beleaguered Hebrew believers? In the midst of their despair and pain, Ezekiel gives a two-part message of comfort and hope from God. The first part (verses 1-14) contains the well-known vision of the valley of dry bones. Through that vision, Israel’s God pledges to breathe new life into the dry and scattered nation of Israel and bring the people back into the land. For those who have read this passage it is quite a picture with those dry bones being miraculously brought to life.Then, in verses 15-22, God promises a future restoration for the whole nation, and announces that some day the northern kingdom, called “Joseph,” and the southern kingdom, called “Judah,” would once again be a united Israel.It is here that we find the meaning of the “sticks” that are joined together in Ezekiel 37:15-22. In verse 16 Ezekiel is told to write on one stick “For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions.” This first stick represented the southern kingdom, or Judah. On a second stick, or piece of wood, Ezekiel was to write, “For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions.” This represented the northern kingdom, called Israel.God then tells Ezekiel, in verse 17, to join the two sticks into one stick and have them become one in Ezekiel&#8217;s hand. In doing so, God is saying that He will bring back together His divided and decimated people. That this is the meaning of the two sticks and their being joined together is stated very explicitly in verses 21-22.And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.The prophecy of Ezekiel 37:16-17 has a specific historical context. It is a prediction of the future unity of God’s divided covenant people. The attempt by the Mormon Church to make this passage a prediction regarding the Book of Mormon violates the clear historical, grammatical context of the passage, and is thus a fallacious interpretation of this Biblical passage.&#8221;</p>
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