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		By: LastDaysWarrior		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-35418</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2016 19:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-34326&quot;&gt;Gordon Lynn Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent reply.  I know that for some women masturbation has helped them explore and get to know their bodies and how they like to be touched.  This in turn can help them educate their husband so he can do the same with her.  Learning about your own sexuality and experimenting with it is in no way sinful in my opinion.  This shame and guilt surrounding sex and masturbation in the church is very detrimental to a person&#039;s self esteem and can hinder a newlywed&#039;s experience.  No wonder many in the LDS church is plagued with &quot;The Good Girl Syndrome.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-34326">Gordon Lynn Brown</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent reply.  I know that for some women masturbation has helped them explore and get to know their bodies and how they like to be touched.  This in turn can help them educate their husband so he can do the same with her.  Learning about your own sexuality and experimenting with it is in no way sinful in my opinion.  This shame and guilt surrounding sex and masturbation in the church is very detrimental to a person&#8217;s self esteem and can hinder a newlywed&#8217;s experience.  No wonder many in the LDS church is plagued with &#8220;The Good Girl Syndrome.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Notime2lose		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-35058</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 07:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it would be good to have an understanding of this as well.  http://thoughtsonthingsandstuff.com/a-latter-day-tragedy-suicide-over-masturbation/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be good to have an understanding of this as well.  <a href="http://thoughtsonthingsandstuff.com/a-latter-day-tragedy-suicide-over-masturbation/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://thoughtsonthingsandstuff.com/a-latter-day-tragedy-suicide-over-masturbation/</a></p>
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		By: be64		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-34392</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2015 00:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While sexual sins may need confessing, I would not include masturbation in that catagory of sin.  If it is something that needs to be repented of then it is more in the catagory of swearing, watching an R rated movie, or having an unclean thought.  I believe it is something you can pray about and ask for forgiveness.  This is not just based on my own opinion, but also from talking to my bishop and a member of the stake presidency.  

However, I will add that I&#039;m not entirely convinced that masturbation is a sin at all regardless of what a small handful of church leaders have said.  It is possible to find a lot of statements from past leaders which are now known to be false.  Just read &quot;Race and the Priesthood&quot; if you disagree.  https://www.lds.org/topics/race-and-the-priesthood?lang=eng ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While sexual sins may need confessing, I would not include masturbation in that catagory of sin.  If it is something that needs to be repented of then it is more in the catagory of swearing, watching an R rated movie, or having an unclean thought.  I believe it is something you can pray about and ask for forgiveness.  This is not just based on my own opinion, but also from talking to my bishop and a member of the stake presidency.  </p>
<p>However, I will add that I&#8217;m not entirely convinced that masturbation is a sin at all regardless of what a small handful of church leaders have said.  It is possible to find a lot of statements from past leaders which are now known to be false.  Just read &#8220;Race and the Priesthood&#8221; if you disagree.  <a href="https://www.lds.org/topics/race-and-the-priesthood?lang=eng" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.lds.org/topics/race-and-the-priesthood?lang=eng</a> </p>
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		By: Gordon Lynn Brown		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-34326</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Lynn Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2015 21:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Masturbation; along with drinking caffeinated drinks, as they relate to the Word of Wisdom,
are more than likely the two most sticky issues in the church.  I am so
grateful that the Savior is the ultimate judge, but in that context I would
like to share the following:


A young married man approached his bishop and confessed that he
had a masturbation problem.  I suspect that some details were provided.
 Rather than reprimand the young man and demanding that he turn over his
temple recommend, the bishop encouraged the young man to attend the temple more
frequently and seek the Lord&#039;s spirit in overcoming his weakness.  Wow,
what a bishop!  No guilt trip(s), no recriminations, no judgments, no
reprimands, just an effort to encourage this young man to get closer to Christ
and tap into His power.

Why, in this example, was a young married man masturbating in
the first place?  Had his wife cut him off sexually; insisting that they
only have intercourse when a child is wanted?  Or did his wife have an
illness that precluded their sharing intimacy?  Or was he trapped into a
habit he developed in childhood?  Or . . . the list goes on.   

It has been medically established that babies while still in the
womb explore their genitals, and given the duration that they explore, there is
more than likely an attendant pleasurable sensation.  This can, and more
often than not, does continue after the baby is born.  Well meaning
parents and grandparents at the onset slap the infant’s hands away and verbally
chastise the infant for fondling themselves.   This carries into early
childhood and if the child is normal, they figure out that the behavior is not
acceptable.  If the child continues in the practice, and does so
clandestinely, they are set up to experience shame and guilt.  The
resulting shame and guilt is usually proportionate to the zeal of particular
religion or sect.

Before I continue with the spiritual ramifications of
masturbation, it might be worth asking the question if there are any physical
implications that result from masturbation.  For males, masturbation has a
high probability of making them hypersensitive to stimulation.  Male
masturbators usually have to climax rapidly to avoid the possibility of being
caught.  If this pattern is established prior to cohabitation, it will
more than likely result in a propensity for pre-mature ejaculation.  While
I am not a woman, and may be expounding out of turn, I can only imagine that
female masturbation results in patterns that have to be duplicated for them to
experience orgasm.  That is to say that they may find it more difficult to
orgasm with regular intercourse.  (No, I am not a doctor, but my wife is.)  If one can
 believe it, the stats reveal that only 35% of women are capable of experiencing orgasm 
through “regular” intercourse.

Spiritually, the issue is convoluted.  If as one
masturbates he or she envisions illicit relations, they are definitely in
peril.  This falls in the category of, &quot;If a man (or a woman) looks
upon another with lust, then they have already committed adultery in their
heart.&quot;  On the other hand, it is my understanding that the church
now condones masturbation from a health perspective.  The medical world,
however, is torn with regard to male masturbation; with some studies indicating
there are no links to prostate problems, and other studies indicating that
there are.  As an irony here, older Mormon men (and their abstinence from
masturbation or frequency of intercourse) are used to support the view that men
who remain sexually active later in life have fewer prostate issues.  That
is to say that statistically, older Mormon men have a higher incidence of
prostate problems. 

If you are plagued by masturbation, I believe that you need to
sincerely pray and fast with the intent of determining if the practice has a
negative effect on you.  Bottom Line, does the practice influence your
relationship with God the Father or Christ?  If the answer is yes, then
you can determine a course of action.  If you have a kind and loving
bishop, he may be a resource worth considering.  In any event, daily
scripture study; prayer; fasting; requesting that you name be placed on the
temple prayer roll; and discussion with your spouse (if married), will be of
great benefit.  And I would highly recommend that you read the book, And
They Were Not Ashamed, by Joyce Brotherson.  Brotherson is a Mormon
authoress and covers dysfunction in Mormon marriages along with our challenge
to become one with our spouses and the Lord.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Masturbation; along with drinking caffeinated drinks, as they relate to the Word of Wisdom,<br />
are more than likely the two most sticky issues in the church.  I am so<br />
grateful that the Savior is the ultimate judge, but in that context I would<br />
like to share the following:</p>
<p>A young married man approached his bishop and confessed that he<br />
had a masturbation problem.  I suspect that some details were provided.<br />
 Rather than reprimand the young man and demanding that he turn over his<br />
temple recommend, the bishop encouraged the young man to attend the temple more<br />
frequently and seek the Lord&#8217;s spirit in overcoming his weakness.  Wow,<br />
what a bishop!  No guilt trip(s), no recriminations, no judgments, no<br />
reprimands, just an effort to encourage this young man to get closer to Christ<br />
and tap into His power.</p>
<p>Why, in this example, was a young married man masturbating in<br />
the first place?  Had his wife cut him off sexually; insisting that they<br />
only have intercourse when a child is wanted?  Or did his wife have an<br />
illness that precluded their sharing intimacy?  Or was he trapped into a<br />
habit he developed in childhood?  Or . . . the list goes on.   </p>
<p>It has been medically established that babies while still in the<br />
womb explore their genitals, and given the duration that they explore, there is<br />
more than likely an attendant pleasurable sensation.  This can, and more<br />
often than not, does continue after the baby is born.  Well meaning<br />
parents and grandparents at the onset slap the infant’s hands away and verbally<br />
chastise the infant for fondling themselves.   This carries into early<br />
childhood and if the child is normal, they figure out that the behavior is not<br />
acceptable.  If the child continues in the practice, and does so<br />
clandestinely, they are set up to experience shame and guilt.  The<br />
resulting shame and guilt is usually proportionate to the zeal of particular<br />
religion or sect.</p>
<p>Before I continue with the spiritual ramifications of<br />
masturbation, it might be worth asking the question if there are any physical<br />
implications that result from masturbation.  For males, masturbation has a<br />
high probability of making them hypersensitive to stimulation.  Male<br />
masturbators usually have to climax rapidly to avoid the possibility of being<br />
caught.  If this pattern is established prior to cohabitation, it will<br />
more than likely result in a propensity for pre-mature ejaculation.  While<br />
I am not a woman, and may be expounding out of turn, I can only imagine that<br />
female masturbation results in patterns that have to be duplicated for them to<br />
experience orgasm.  That is to say that they may find it more difficult to<br />
orgasm with regular intercourse.  (No, I am not a doctor, but my wife is.)  If one can<br />
 believe it, the stats reveal that only 35% of women are capable of experiencing orgasm<br />
through “regular” intercourse.</p>
<p>Spiritually, the issue is convoluted.  If as one<br />
masturbates he or she envisions illicit relations, they are definitely in<br />
peril.  This falls in the category of, &#8220;If a man (or a woman) looks<br />
upon another with lust, then they have already committed adultery in their<br />
heart.&#8221;  On the other hand, it is my understanding that the church<br />
now condones masturbation from a health perspective.  The medical world,<br />
however, is torn with regard to male masturbation; with some studies indicating<br />
there are no links to prostate problems, and other studies indicating that<br />
there are.  As an irony here, older Mormon men (and their abstinence from<br />
masturbation or frequency of intercourse) are used to support the view that men<br />
who remain sexually active later in life have fewer prostate issues.  That<br />
is to say that statistically, older Mormon men have a higher incidence of<br />
prostate problems. </p>
<p>If you are plagued by masturbation, I believe that you need to<br />
sincerely pray and fast with the intent of determining if the practice has a<br />
negative effect on you.  Bottom Line, does the practice influence your<br />
relationship with God the Father or Christ?  If the answer is yes, then<br />
you can determine a course of action.  If you have a kind and loving<br />
bishop, he may be a resource worth considering.  In any event, daily<br />
scripture study; prayer; fasting; requesting that you name be placed on the<br />
temple prayer roll; and discussion with your spouse (if married), will be of<br />
great benefit.  And I would highly recommend that you read the book, And<br />
They Were Not Ashamed, by Joyce Brotherson.  Brotherson is a Mormon<br />
authoress and covers dysfunction in Mormon marriages along with our challenge<br />
to become one with our spouses and the Lord.</p>
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		By: L		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33945</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 01:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow!  If the internet had been around in 1951, this is what I would have expected, but today?  Masturbation addictive?  Well, I guess so is sugar, but...what&#039;s your point?  I guess I&#039;m just confused about the whole topic, and admittedly, I just happened across this (without typing in masturbation), and don&#039;t know a lot about about anyone&#039;s background here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  If the internet had been around in 1951, this is what I would have expected, but today?  Masturbation addictive?  Well, I guess so is sugar, but&#8230;what&#8217;s your point?  I guess I&#8217;m just confused about the whole topic, and admittedly, I just happened across this (without typing in masturbation), and don&#8217;t know a lot about about anyone&#8217;s background here.</p>
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		By: Nick Boyer		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33582</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Boyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 08:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Making it a sin creates tremendous mental anguish which is entirely unnecessary and adds to creating the addiction itself. Are you addicted to naps, cheeseburgers, hugs, buying new shoes? If it doesn&#039;t ruin careers or impede you in any way, if it doesn&#039;t ruin your whole existence then there is no reason to tell your neighbor such personal things in a guilt inducing process of humiliation and approval seeking]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making it a sin creates tremendous mental anguish which is entirely unnecessary and adds to creating the addiction itself. Are you addicted to naps, cheeseburgers, hugs, buying new shoes? If it doesn&#8217;t ruin careers or impede you in any way, if it doesn&#8217;t ruin your whole existence then there is no reason to tell your neighbor such personal things in a guilt inducing process of humiliation and approval seeking</p>
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		By: ji		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33496</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;“&#039;Some mistakes, especially those regarding immorality, require 
confession to the bishop before you can receive the Lord’s forgiveness.&#039;

&quot;Masturbation would fall into this category.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;


This is one opinion.  Others may feel that masturbation does not fall into the category of immorality.  The current handbook of instructions does not indicate that masturbation is a sin that requires confession to a bishop; rather, to me, it seems to indicate confession is not needed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“&#8217;Some mistakes, especially those regarding immorality, require<br />
confession to the bishop before you can receive the Lord’s forgiveness.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;Masturbation would fall into this category.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>This is one opinion.  Others may feel that masturbation does not fall into the category of immorality.  The current handbook of instructions does not indicate that masturbation is a sin that requires confession to a bishop; rather, to me, it seems to indicate confession is not needed.</p>
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		By: Anddenex		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33410</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anddenex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2014 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33392&quot;&gt;Knutekritt&lt;/a&gt;.

Bishops, depending on the scenario, do require more information and would it depends on how you are using the word description, or describe in detail.  Bishops require: 1) When the last time was. 2) How often, how many times (depending on the sin).


I assume though you are meaning a description of how one masturbated, and if this is the case, then a bishop doesn&#039;t need to know these details to honor his duty before the Lord --  male or female.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33392">Knutekritt</a>.</p>
<p>Bishops, depending on the scenario, do require more information and would it depends on how you are using the word description, or describe in detail.  Bishops require: 1) When the last time was. 2) How often, how many times (depending on the sin).</p>
<p>I assume though you are meaning a description of how one masturbated, and if this is the case, then a bishop doesn&#8217;t need to know these details to honor his duty before the Lord &#8212;  male or female.</p>
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		By: Wax		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33393</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33392&quot;&gt;Knutekritt&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t think a bishop would ever need specific details about anyones immorality, single word descriptions are sufficient.  When I came back into the gospel I told the bishop that I could spend a couple of hours recounting my sins which are abominable in the eyes of the Lord.  My bishop God bless his heart simple asked me, &quot;are you still engaged in activities that are incompatible with God.&quot;  Of course I said no.  When you view the process of repentance through the eyes of man versus God, you will always question it.  Its called obedience.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33392">Knutekritt</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think a bishop would ever need specific details about anyones immorality, single word descriptions are sufficient.  When I came back into the gospel I told the bishop that I could spend a couple of hours recounting my sins which are abominable in the eyes of the Lord.  My bishop God bless his heart simple asked me, &#8220;are you still engaged in activities that are incompatible with God.&#8221;  Of course I said no.  When you view the process of repentance through the eyes of man versus God, you will always question it.  Its called obedience.  </p>
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		By: Knutekritt		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33392</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Knutekritt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 12:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The mantle of the Bishop should allow him to transcend gender bounds...if it isnt, then the Bishop has some work to do. My dad was a Bishop.  I recall that women reported they would rather talk to him about their sexual immorality than anyone else, including a female therapist.  Why?  Because he understood people.....and could love for real.  On the other hand, I recall talking to a new Bishop one time about feeling depressed about being single, and he was the most arrogant, demeaning person.  I always came away from any conversation about anything feeling like he put me down.  I would never trust a person like that with something regarding sexual immorality.
I think women, should be able to discuss sexual issues with a female counselor and not be forced to describe in detail to a male Bishop.  Why, a Bishop would require a detailed explanation is beyond me, yet I have heard from some women where that was asked for.  I always tell them to say, I am too uncomfortable talking about the specifics with a man.  It&#039;s enough for you to know that I am confessing a sexual self abuse issue, etc..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mantle of the Bishop should allow him to transcend gender bounds&#8230;if it isnt, then the Bishop has some work to do. My dad was a Bishop.  I recall that women reported they would rather talk to him about their sexual immorality than anyone else, including a female therapist.  Why?  Because he understood people&#8230;..and could love for real.  On the other hand, I recall talking to a new Bishop one time about feeling depressed about being single, and he was the most arrogant, demeaning person.  I always came away from any conversation about anything feeling like he put me down.  I would never trust a person like that with something regarding sexual immorality.<br />
I think women, should be able to discuss sexual issues with a female counselor and not be forced to describe in detail to a male Bishop.  Why, a Bishop would require a detailed explanation is beyond me, yet I have heard from some women where that was asked for.  I always tell them to say, I am too uncomfortable talking about the specifics with a man.  It&#8217;s enough for you to know that I am confessing a sexual self abuse issue, etc..</p>
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		By: Liz Perrott		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33390</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Perrott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33387&quot;&gt;ppeebles&lt;/a&gt;.

I find lots of positive things in many of Gramps posts, I read them all , I do not comment on most of them but I do comment if I do not agree with a comment or thought train. God gave us intelligence and discernment to look at things rather than just accept blindly.  Many LDS members I know, question lots of things while still being active in the church.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33387">ppeebles</a>.</p>
<p>I find lots of positive things in many of Gramps posts, I read them all , I do not comment on most of them but I do comment if I do not agree with a comment or thought train. God gave us intelligence and discernment to look at things rather than just accept blindly.  Many LDS members I know, question lots of things while still being active in the church.</p>
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		By: ppeebles		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/masturbation-something-need-confess-bishop/#comment-33387</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ppeebles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Liz is there anything positive you ever see about any of Gramps answers?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz is there anything positive you ever see about any of Gramps answers?</p>
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