Comments on: Messiah ben Joseph https://askgramps.org/messiah-ben-joseph/ Moral answers to everyday concerns, curiosities, and uncertainties. Gramps considers all questions on all topics from all sources. Wed, 29 Sep 2021 03:29:41 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mark Lichtenwalter https://askgramps.org/messiah-ben-joseph/#comment-34348 Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:57:00 +0000 http://en.elds.org/askgramps-org/?p=12185#comment-34348 Good Insite. I would like to say that Messiah Ben Joseph and Messiah Ben Judah both stand next to the Father. This is shown in Zacheriah 4 verse 14. It speaks of 2 annointed ones aka Messiahs aka Christs that stand next to the Lord of the whole earth aka The Father. These three are God the Father, God the Redeemer, and God the Witness. Joseph Smith in May of 1844 said the Holy Ghost at that time was Yet a spirit Body, But that he was waiting to take himself a body as the Savior had. In another qoute of Joseph Smith we are told that the Holy Ghost is in a state of Probation and if he should perform in righteousness, he would do the same or similar to what the savior had done. This Probation spoken of here I believe to be the first Probation or estate. When Moroni first went to Joseph Smith he qouted several scriptures, one of them being Isaiah chapter 11. This is a prophecy about the four davidic servants known as the Stem, The Root the Rod and the Branch. In Section 113 we learn more about the Stem where in Joseph Asks Jesus who the Stem is, and Jesus tells Joseph The Stem is Christ. He doesn’t say Jesus Christ or I am the Stem, He Simply says Christ. Going back to the next scripture Moroni spoke of while speaking with Joseph the first time, Moroni qoutes Acts chapter 3 verse 22-23 and says the man in that scripture is Christ, But they day had not yet come when he would be rejected from among his people, But soon would come. If you look up that scripture you will see that it is plainly speaking of The Man Like Unto Moses, Who if people will not hear, they will be cut off… In Section 103 Jesus ALso Speaks of the Man Like unto Moses who Jesus will Raise up out of Zion, and that that man will redeem Zion with Power. Also that when this happens the very presence of God will with among them. This Man Like Unto Moses, who is called Christ, Who is a Messiah from the tribe of Ephraim is a Messiah that will deliver the people from the bondage of Babylon the Great and will redeem Zion with Power and is also God the Witness that comes down at the very end and is not only a witness of the Father and the Son, But also an Elias of the Father and the Son and sent before hand to Redeem Zion. He will do the same as Jesus did. He will have a 3 year ministery and he will be put to death and will be raised on the third day just as Jesus was. See Revelations chapters 11 and 12 about that.. This Prophet was spoken of by so many of the holy prophets but to us he remains a mystery. Only those who have the spirit and a heart of Believe will know him when he comes. But he is Here and he is speaking to the people and preparing those that will hear for the times that are now upon us. I know these things because I have stood in the presence of our Father and Redeemer and have felt there flesh and there all consuming love and I testify to you that they love and they live and they have bodies of flesh. I have embraced them and they have embraced me and as I testify of them to you, If you are believing and sincere, they will testify to you that I am the witness that I proclaim to be. I say this in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

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