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		By: Arnie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2015 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember President Kimball stressed not watching R rated movies. Some people reveled in the idea of watching bad movies that were not rated, or movies that were PG-13 etc. There is a rumor (I&#039;ll call it nothing more than that) that a general authority (named in the rumor, but I&#039;ll leave the name out here since I&#039;m not authenticating it at all) was seen in line to see a particular R rated historical war movie (again, I&#039;ll leave the specifics out). The story goes that someone confronted him about it and he responded that each person has to decide for himself, and his his view the movie&#039;s benefits as an accurate retelling of history made it worthwhile to see, and the violence wasn&#039;t gratuitous. In addition to that, the church is a worldwide church, and drawing the line at R rated isn&#039;t necessarily applicable to all the other countries or cultures where a different type of rating scheme is in place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember President Kimball stressed not watching R rated movies. Some people reveled in the idea of watching bad movies that were not rated, or movies that were PG-13 etc. There is a rumor (I&#8217;ll call it nothing more than that) that a general authority (named in the rumor, but I&#8217;ll leave the name out here since I&#8217;m not authenticating it at all) was seen in line to see a particular R rated historical war movie (again, I&#8217;ll leave the specifics out). The story goes that someone confronted him about it and he responded that each person has to decide for himself, and his his view the movie&#8217;s benefits as an accurate retelling of history made it worthwhile to see, and the violence wasn&#8217;t gratuitous. In addition to that, the church is a worldwide church, and drawing the line at R rated isn&#8217;t necessarily applicable to all the other countries or cultures where a different type of rating scheme is in place.</p>
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		By: James G		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/movies-can-watch/#comment-31939</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2014 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/movies-can-watch/#comment-31845&quot;&gt;R. L.&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;...anything that presents immorality or violence as acceptable.&quot;
Do the scriptures present the immorality and violence therein as acceptable?  Or do they point to it as a highly undesirable consequence of poor choices?  That might make the difference. 

 Personally i find that &quot;doctrinal conflict&quot; has more to do with my lack of understanding and study of a subject than it does the subject itself.  Seek and knock after those answers and the doors will be opened to you.  Don&#039;t wait for an answer to come out and bite you get on your knees and start hunting it down.  They are out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/movies-can-watch/#comment-31845">R. L.</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;anything that presents immorality or violence as acceptable.&#8221;<br />
Do the scriptures present the immorality and violence therein as acceptable?  Or do they point to it as a highly undesirable consequence of poor choices?  That might make the difference. </p>
<p> Personally i find that &#8220;doctrinal conflict&#8221; has more to do with my lack of understanding and study of a subject than it does the subject itself.  Seek and knock after those answers and the doors will be opened to you.  Don&#8217;t wait for an answer to come out and bite you get on your knees and start hunting it down.  They are out there.</p>
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		By: Wynton Marsalis		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/movies-can-watch/#comment-31846</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the answer by Gramps is sound. In the previous version of For the Strength of Youth, the church actually did draw a line on R-rated movies. They appear to have realized that was problematic and have updated the current language to reflect that. I suspect part of the problem is that when drawing a line on, say, R-rated movies, it inadvertently gives license to watch anything &quot;below&quot; an R-rating. Anyone who watches many movies knows that many PG-13 movies are indeed worse (more obscene, more suggestive and even more degrading and raunchy) than many R-rated movies. Hence, they removed the line.

The best recent general-authority talk I have read that deals specifically with this is in 2013 at a BYU devotional by Robbins in the first quorum of the seventy. Here is the link. It is an excellent talk: http://speeches.byu.edu/index.php?act=viewitem&#038;id=2135]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the answer by Gramps is sound. In the previous version of For the Strength of Youth, the church actually did draw a line on R-rated movies. They appear to have realized that was problematic and have updated the current language to reflect that. I suspect part of the problem is that when drawing a line on, say, R-rated movies, it inadvertently gives license to watch anything &#8220;below&#8221; an R-rating. Anyone who watches many movies knows that many PG-13 movies are indeed worse (more obscene, more suggestive and even more degrading and raunchy) than many R-rated movies. Hence, they removed the line.</p>
<p>The best recent general-authority talk I have read that deals specifically with this is in 2013 at a BYU devotional by Robbins in the first quorum of the seventy. Here is the link. It is an excellent talk: <a href="http://speeches.byu.edu/index.php?act=viewitem&#038;id=2135" rel="nofollow ugc">http://speeches.byu.edu/index.php?act=viewitem&#038;id=2135</a></p>
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		By: R. L.		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/movies-can-watch/#comment-31845</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R. L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always had somewhat of an unanswered opinion/question/comment on this topic.  If the scriptures themselves were accurately and fully put to movie form, it would be rated NC-17 by way of violence alone, and even rated X because of some of the profoundly graphic sexual content described in the scriptures, particularly in the Old Testament.  This seems to be a rare but genuine case of doctrinal conflict that the church has yet to fully address.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always had somewhat of an unanswered opinion/question/comment on this topic.  If the scriptures themselves were accurately and fully put to movie form, it would be rated NC-17 by way of violence alone, and even rated X because of some of the profoundly graphic sexual content described in the scriptures, particularly in the Old Testament.  This seems to be a rare but genuine case of doctrinal conflict that the church has yet to fully address.</p>
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