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		By: Douglas Self		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are SEVERAL factors which can explain the siting of an LDS Temple in a &quot;Posh&quot; area...

1)  Like Grandpa Potts of &quot;Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang&quot;, it&#039;s the &quot;Posh Life&quot; for the Church...

2)  The Church&#039;s property arm is a major player in the real estate business.  Of necessity to get sites for future meetinghouses, stake centers, institutes, seminaries, and, of course, temples, it&#039;s a buyer and seller of properties, which that business pays taxes and is regulated like any other real estate entity.

3)  Since most Church facilities, especially temples, are long-term investments, the trends in member locations has to be projected.  A temple in a more &#039;ritzy&#039; area, where the neighbors already have incentive to maintain the property values, is less risky.  Plus, the land may have been acquired by the Church decades ago, so that capital investment by today&#039;s standards is likely a pittance.

4) At times, the Temple itself factors into the &#039;gentrification&#039; of an area...that is, older members, with some money built up over the years, tend to prefer closeness to a temple, other things considered.  Market demand stimulated by LDS member interest can influence property values decidedly upward.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are SEVERAL factors which can explain the siting of an LDS Temple in a &#8220;Posh&#8221; area&#8230;</p>
<p>1)  Like Grandpa Potts of &#8220;Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang&#8221;, it&#8217;s the &#8220;Posh Life&#8221; for the Church&#8230;</p>
<p>2)  The Church&#8217;s property arm is a major player in the real estate business.  Of necessity to get sites for future meetinghouses, stake centers, institutes, seminaries, and, of course, temples, it&#8217;s a buyer and seller of properties, which that business pays taxes and is regulated like any other real estate entity.</p>
<p>3)  Since most Church facilities, especially temples, are long-term investments, the trends in member locations has to be projected.  A temple in a more &#8216;ritzy&#8217; area, where the neighbors already have incentive to maintain the property values, is less risky.  Plus, the land may have been acquired by the Church decades ago, so that capital investment by today&#8217;s standards is likely a pittance.</p>
<p>4) At times, the Temple itself factors into the &#8216;gentrification&#8217; of an area&#8230;that is, older members, with some money built up over the years, tend to prefer closeness to a temple, other things considered.  Market demand stimulated by LDS member interest can influence property values decidedly upward.</p>
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		By: Austin		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/temples-seem-built-rich-areas/#comment-35196</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Cebu City Temple in Cebu City, Philippines was dedicated in 2010. If you&#039;ve been there you would never expect such a large and beautiful building could be hidden among filthy streets, worn out shops, and muddy roads cluttered with litter. The area all around it is really &quot;trashy.&quot; Though it is a chaotic area, having a temple there really increases the feeling in the neighborhood and adds great beauty making it seem a lot nicer than it actually is. 
  Just as our lives are often filled with garbage and are cluttered, growing closer to the savior and receiving his light in your life and countenance can physically make you brighter and add beauty, just like a temple will do to its surroundings. 
  The work is still growing and temples will fill the whole earth like they do in Salt Lake and Utah counties. I&#039;m sure smaller ones will continue to be built in more remote areas as the work progresses. No matter where you live, the Lord will provide a way according to your faith. 
 Nobody will perish and not be saved because they couldn&#039;t monetarily afford to recieve the knowledge necessary that can only be attained in the temples. Work for the dead and the millennium will be a time of this work for all those who didn&#039;t recieve that opportunity in this life. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cebu City Temple in Cebu City, Philippines was dedicated in 2010. If you&#8217;ve been there you would never expect such a large and beautiful building could be hidden among filthy streets, worn out shops, and muddy roads cluttered with litter. The area all around it is really &#8220;trashy.&#8221; Though it is a chaotic area, having a temple there really increases the feeling in the neighborhood and adds great beauty making it seem a lot nicer than it actually is.<br />
  Just as our lives are often filled with garbage and are cluttered, growing closer to the savior and receiving his light in your life and countenance can physically make you brighter and add beauty, just like a temple will do to its surroundings.<br />
  The work is still growing and temples will fill the whole earth like they do in Salt Lake and Utah counties. I&#8217;m sure smaller ones will continue to be built in more remote areas as the work progresses. No matter where you live, the Lord will provide a way according to your faith.<br />
 Nobody will perish and not be saved because they couldn&#8217;t monetarily afford to recieve the knowledge necessary that can only be attained in the temples. Work for the dead and the millennium will be a time of this work for all those who didn&#8217;t recieve that opportunity in this life. </p>
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		By: J. Brent Wood		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/temples-seem-built-rich-areas/#comment-34846</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/temples-seem-built-rich-areas/#comment-34834&quot;&gt;Kristie Partridge&lt;/a&gt;.

The New Zealand Temple is surrounded by fields covered by grazing cattle.  There is a need to build these building in an area which will not become a run down area of town over a long period of time. Brent Wood]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/temples-seem-built-rich-areas/#comment-34834">Kristie Partridge</a>.</p>
<p>The New Zealand Temple is surrounded by fields covered by grazing cattle.  There is a need to build these building in an area which will not become a run down area of town over a long period of time. Brent Wood</p>
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		By: carbonware		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/temples-seem-built-rich-areas/#comment-34845</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carbonware]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2016 02:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/temples-seem-built-rich-areas/#comment-34833&quot;&gt;Robert&lt;/a&gt;.

this is sometimes the case and nice that people can provide a couple of examples. Still the majority of modern temples are build in wealthy neighborhoods across the globe. 

Explain Washington DC or Las Vegas, neither are located at the center of where members live in the area, they are both at the center of some of the most wealthy. Chicago, Atlanta, Newport Beach,  Fort Collins, Denver, DC, Oakland, San Diego, Louisville, Indianapolis, etc. for just a few examples are all built in extremely wealthy areas where the majority of the members in those districts do not live very close (in the same neighborhoods) to these temples.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/temples-seem-built-rich-areas/#comment-34833">Robert</a>.</p>
<p>this is sometimes the case and nice that people can provide a couple of examples. Still the majority of modern temples are build in wealthy neighborhoods across the globe. </p>
<p>Explain Washington DC or Las Vegas, neither are located at the center of where members live in the area, they are both at the center of some of the most wealthy. Chicago, Atlanta, Newport Beach,  Fort Collins, Denver, DC, Oakland, San Diego, Louisville, Indianapolis, etc. for just a few examples are all built in extremely wealthy areas where the majority of the members in those districts do not live very close (in the same neighborhoods) to these temples.</p>
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		By: carbonware		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2016 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/temples-seem-built-rich-areas/#comment-34835&quot;&gt;Jana&lt;/a&gt;.

Sometimes this is true. So what your saying is the Temples sit on donated land and not inspired locations selected by the Prophets as directed from the Lord? Which is it? because if it&#039;s mostly on donated land from wealthy members it confirms the question rather than validating Gramps answer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/temples-seem-built-rich-areas/#comment-34835">Jana</a>.</p>
<p>Sometimes this is true. So what your saying is the Temples sit on donated land and not inspired locations selected by the Prophets as directed from the Lord? Which is it? because if it&#8217;s mostly on donated land from wealthy members it confirms the question rather than validating Gramps answer.</p>
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		By: carbonware		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carbonware]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2016 02:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/temples-seem-built-rich-areas/#comment-34834&quot;&gt;Kristie Partridge&lt;/a&gt;.

Accept when built Manti was to be a key center for the church but plans changed. Siting one or two examples hardly makes up for the fact that most temples built in the last 40 years have been built in  highly affluent neighborhoods.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/temples-seem-built-rich-areas/#comment-34834">Kristie Partridge</a>.</p>
<p>Accept when built Manti was to be a key center for the church but plans changed. Siting one or two examples hardly makes up for the fact that most temples built in the last 40 years have been built in  highly affluent neighborhoods.</p>
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		By: carbonware		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carbonware]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2016 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Gramps was stretching it quite a bit here. The person was not asking about rich countries or rich cities but rich neighborhoods. Most new temples built in the last 30-40 years have been built in highly affluent neighborhoods even if the nation itself is not generally wealthy. 

Gramps comments about Africa or Mexico were frankly lame. There are certainly wealthy neighborhoods, areas and towns for that matter in both these places. Its like claiming California is poor because it have farm country in and inner-city poor neighborhoods while ignoring that much of CA. Is among the most expensive places to live in the nation (and happen to have temples in them) Oakland, New Port beach, LA, San Diego.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Gramps was stretching it quite a bit here. The person was not asking about rich countries or rich cities but rich neighborhoods. Most new temples built in the last 30-40 years have been built in highly affluent neighborhoods even if the nation itself is not generally wealthy. </p>
<p>Gramps comments about Africa or Mexico were frankly lame. There are certainly wealthy neighborhoods, areas and towns for that matter in both these places. Its like claiming California is poor because it have farm country in and inner-city poor neighborhoods while ignoring that much of CA. Is among the most expensive places to live in the nation (and happen to have temples in them) Oakland, New Port beach, LA, San Diego.</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2016 23:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If wealth was a true indication surely there would be 10 to 20 temples in Washington D.C, New York, California. From my mission experience in Washington D.C there are soo many saints that are building the kingdom with their financial contributions, yet they only have one temple (and they don&#039;t mind).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If wealth was a true indication surely there would be 10 to 20 temples in Washington D.C, New York, California. From my mission experience in Washington D.C there are soo many saints that are building the kingdom with their financial contributions, yet they only have one temple (and they don&#8217;t mind).</p>
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		By: Jana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2016 15:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also often the land is donated by church members who live near by or adjacent. These donation are in the areas where we live as members]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also often the land is donated by church members who live near by or adjacent. These donation are in the areas where we live as members</p>
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		By: Kristie Partridge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristie Partridge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2016 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another example would be the Manti, Utah temple.  Manti is a small farming town, and was even smaller and poorer when the temple was originally built.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example would be the Manti, Utah temple.  Manti is a small farming town, and was even smaller and poorer when the temple was originally built.</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2016 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Medford Oregon Temple sits across the street from an old farm yard and falling down barn.  There are cows in the pasture.  That is on the west.  But once the temple was built, the city invested big money on the roads and subdivisions to the east.  It seems like the presence of the temple raised the standard for the whole area.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Medford Oregon Temple sits across the street from an old farm yard and falling down barn.  There are cows in the pasture.  That is on the west.  But once the temple was built, the city invested big money on the roads and subdivisions to the east.  It seems like the presence of the temple raised the standard for the whole area.</p>
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