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	Comments on: What is the church&#8217;s stance on the Council of Nicea?	</title>
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		By: Wynton Marsalis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynton Marsalis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would only add what the Lord stated to Joseph Smith in Joseph Smith History 1:19, which I think is an official statement not only about the Nicene creed but any other doctrine that was created without revelation from God - ...“they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”


I believe the intentions of those involved in the formation of the Nicene creed had good intentions and were trying their best to clarify God&#039;s word. But they did this without revelation, without the keys of the priesthood to receive and pronounce doctrine. As such, they were &quot;teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.&quot; It was the best they could do, but if only using reason and logic to determine God&#039;s doctrine, you will inevitably end up with philosophies or commandments that are man made.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would only add what the Lord stated to Joseph Smith in Joseph Smith History 1:19, which I think is an official statement not only about the Nicene creed but any other doctrine that was created without revelation from God &#8211; &#8230;“they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”</p>
<p>I believe the intentions of those involved in the formation of the Nicene creed had good intentions and were trying their best to clarify God&#8217;s word. But they did this without revelation, without the keys of the priesthood to receive and pronounce doctrine. As such, they were &#8220;teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.&#8221; It was the best they could do, but if only using reason and logic to determine God&#8217;s doctrine, you will inevitably end up with philosophies or commandments that are man made.</p>
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		By: Francis Angelica		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis Angelica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2014 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a talk given by Elder Jeffrey R. Holland in October 2007 of the Nicea Creed (www.lds.org/general-conference/2007/10/the-only-true-god-and-jesus-christ-whom-he-hath-sent?lang=eng)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a talk given by Elder Jeffrey R. Holland in October 2007 of the Nicea Creed (www.lds.org/general-conference/2007/10/the-only-true-god-and-jesus-christ-whom-he-hath-sent?lang=eng)</p>
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