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		By: Stan Lee Too Chee		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34373</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan Lee Too Chee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2015 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34328&quot;&gt;charkee&lt;/a&gt;.

Sometimes they are not inspired. They are human, after all. But the Lord is inspired... And faith can be tested through a horrific event such as this. Some people have trials that seem insurmountable. The point is, did you endure well, learn the lesson, and increase your faith in the Lord?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34328">charkee</a>.</p>
<p>Sometimes they are not inspired. They are human, after all. But the Lord is inspired&#8230; And faith can be tested through a horrific event such as this. Some people have trials that seem insurmountable. The point is, did you endure well, learn the lesson, and increase your faith in the Lord?</p>
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		By: Mommatofive		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34351</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mommatofive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 03:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34250&quot;&gt;Liz Perrott&lt;/a&gt;.

Our branch has 3 individuals who are on the autism spectrum and two people with Down syndrome who attend regularly.  One of those people is my 14 year old son.  He was disruptive when he was younger, but he learned to sit still and is a well loved member of out branch. He can still occasionally be disruptive as can some of the others but everyone is so understanding.  My son passes the sacrament and a man with Down S blesses the sacrament.  The area we do lack is resources to safely and effectively handle the 10 year old boy who has autism and is very physical. It&#039;s a tough one for his mom and I know she would benefit from the adult classes but often has to stay with him.  There is one man that can keep up with him and he does watch him some so she can go to class, but not very often.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34250">Liz Perrott</a>.</p>
<p>Our branch has 3 individuals who are on the autism spectrum and two people with Down syndrome who attend regularly.  One of those people is my 14 year old son.  He was disruptive when he was younger, but he learned to sit still and is a well loved member of out branch. He can still occasionally be disruptive as can some of the others but everyone is so understanding.  My son passes the sacrament and a man with Down S blesses the sacrament.  The area we do lack is resources to safely and effectively handle the 10 year old boy who has autism and is very physical. It&#8217;s a tough one for his mom and I know she would benefit from the adult classes but often has to stay with him.  There is one man that can keep up with him and he does watch him some so she can go to class, but not very often.  </p>
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		By: charkee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charkee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A friend of mine was forcibly manhandled out of the church by the Elder&#039;s quorum.  He did not know what was happening, but the Elders were very rude threw him on the grass and threatened him to never return.  Turns out that his wife falsely accused him of molesting their 2 little toddler girls.  He spend a year in jail awaiting trial and was found innocent.  His wife had coached the little girls and was brought to admitting that in court.  When my friend was released,  the wife had emptied the bank account and sold their home.  He had no job and no support from the church.  The church did not sanction this wicked woman. She destroyed his life and left him homeless and it was premeditated.  Needless to say my friend never again regained his interest in the church. Sometimes church leaders are not inspired.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine was forcibly manhandled out of the church by the Elder&#8217;s quorum.  He did not know what was happening, but the Elders were very rude threw him on the grass and threatened him to never return.  Turns out that his wife falsely accused him of molesting their 2 little toddler girls.  He spend a year in jail awaiting trial and was found innocent.  His wife had coached the little girls and was brought to admitting that in court.  When my friend was released,  the wife had emptied the bank account and sold their home.  He had no job and no support from the church.  The church did not sanction this wicked woman. She destroyed his life and left him homeless and it was premeditated.  Needless to say my friend never again regained his interest in the church. Sometimes church leaders are not inspired.</p>
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		By: Deborah Crow		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34275</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah Crow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2015 16:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the case of my Ward&#039;s Bishop while he has a low tolerance for such nonsense, he does act on his judgment and with the Spirit&#039;s guidance.  I would also dare to say he errors on the side of compassion and sometimes takes a &quot;wait and see&quot; approach a bit longer than most.  It&#039;s what makes him an endearing Bishop but a slightly frustrating one as well.

Most of us would have chucked those causing trouble out on their ears without thinking to hard on it.  Probably not the right approach and one wonders what Christ would have done under those circumstances.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the case of my Ward&#8217;s Bishop while he has a low tolerance for such nonsense, he does act on his judgment and with the Spirit&#8217;s guidance.  I would also dare to say he errors on the side of compassion and sometimes takes a &#8220;wait and see&#8221; approach a bit longer than most.  It&#8217;s what makes him an endearing Bishop but a slightly frustrating one as well.</p>
<p>Most of us would have chucked those causing trouble out on their ears without thinking to hard on it.  Probably not the right approach and one wonders what Christ would have done under those circumstances.</p>
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		By: Deborah Crow		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34261</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah Crow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34250&quot;&gt;Liz Perrott&lt;/a&gt;.

When I joined the church in 94, my son was going to be 7 and was Autistic.  I ended up going inactive after my trip to the Oakland Temple to take out my Endowments because my son, then 10 became so disruptive I had to spend Sacrament Meeting in the Foyer which allowed me to still hear the speakers and take the sacrament; but even that failed to last long before I had to remove him and the noise he was causing to out in the courtyard (missing the talks and sacrament entirely).  There was no classes for my son, he was functioning at 1/2 his age (he was 10 yrs old so, developmentally 5 years old at best), you couldn&#039;t get him to sit still, couldn&#039;t stop him from becoming agitated and hitting others, adults included.  It got bad each year after that until he was 25 years old and had to be placed into a facility.  Not saying yours will, just saying it happens and you just do what you can to remove the impact on others.  Sometimes it requires you sacrifice your attendance for a time or arrange for someone to come while you attend Sacrament Meeting.  My bishop was a wonderful man that just didn&#039;t know how to help me.  I don&#039;t blame him at all.  I know Heavenly Father understood and, while I was inactive for 12 years, my testimony did not wane in the least, I kept it and when I returned after he was placed in a facility, I returned giving my testimony during the first Fast Sunday.  My story touched many in the Ward.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34250">Liz Perrott</a>.</p>
<p>When I joined the church in 94, my son was going to be 7 and was Autistic.  I ended up going inactive after my trip to the Oakland Temple to take out my Endowments because my son, then 10 became so disruptive I had to spend Sacrament Meeting in the Foyer which allowed me to still hear the speakers and take the sacrament; but even that failed to last long before I had to remove him and the noise he was causing to out in the courtyard (missing the talks and sacrament entirely).  There was no classes for my son, he was functioning at 1/2 his age (he was 10 yrs old so, developmentally 5 years old at best), you couldn&#8217;t get him to sit still, couldn&#8217;t stop him from becoming agitated and hitting others, adults included.  It got bad each year after that until he was 25 years old and had to be placed into a facility.  Not saying yours will, just saying it happens and you just do what you can to remove the impact on others.  Sometimes it requires you sacrifice your attendance for a time or arrange for someone to come while you attend Sacrament Meeting.  My bishop was a wonderful man that just didn&#8217;t know how to help me.  I don&#8217;t blame him at all.  I know Heavenly Father understood and, while I was inactive for 12 years, my testimony did not wane in the least, I kept it and when I returned after he was placed in a facility, I returned giving my testimony during the first Fast Sunday.  My story touched many in the Ward.</p>
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		By: carbonware		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34253</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carbonware]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2015 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have been in a couple of meetings with disruptive people who were escorted out and asked to not return. With one exception we never saw them again. The exception was one person who came back and a member who was also a police officer escorted the person out of the chapel and arrested them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been in a couple of meetings with disruptive people who were escorted out and asked to not return. With one exception we never saw them again. The exception was one person who came back and a member who was also a police officer escorted the person out of the chapel and arrested them.</p>
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		By: Liz Perrott		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34250</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Perrott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In addition to above, I am curious as to how those with say Autism would be treated is they had meltdowns. Would never dare risk taking one of my grandsons aged 10 to a meeting, he can  become very disruptive in crowds although he is intellectually OK and asks about church stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to above, I am curious as to how those with say Autism would be treated is they had meltdowns. Would never dare risk taking one of my grandsons aged 10 to a meeting, he can  become very disruptive in crowds although he is intellectually OK and asks about church stuff.</p>
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		By: Deborah Crow		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/what-is-the-policy-if-someone-becomes-disruptive-at-a-church-meeting/#comment-34249</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah Crow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve had 2 such instances, different times.  One woman who was a member&#039;s girlfriend (they were lesbians) didn&#039;t like the message of the speaker during meeting and made comments out loud on occasion while the speaker struggled to stay on their talk, the woman was spoken to after Sacrament Meeting; she went on to heckle the teacher during Sunday School and asking inappropriate questions during Relief Society Meeting.  I see the member but her girlfriend has not returned.  Our Bishop has low tolerance for this kind of behavior.  No doubt she was warned.  The second involved a member&#039;s son who is known to be on drugs when he comes around.  He&#039;s supposed to attend the Singles Ward meetings but his mom is in our Ward.  He is often engaged in inappropriate conversations with the young women in the Ward and has been warned on occasion to not engage in such conversations.  At one point one of the brothers went to hug the young man and the brother was struck and knocked out.  The young man (over 18 so he&#039;s actually an adult) was escorted out of the building.  The brother who was struck didn&#039;t press charges though he could have and would have been in his rights to do so.  Violence is never appropriate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had 2 such instances, different times.  One woman who was a member&#8217;s girlfriend (they were lesbians) didn&#8217;t like the message of the speaker during meeting and made comments out loud on occasion while the speaker struggled to stay on their talk, the woman was spoken to after Sacrament Meeting; she went on to heckle the teacher during Sunday School and asking inappropriate questions during Relief Society Meeting.  I see the member but her girlfriend has not returned.  Our Bishop has low tolerance for this kind of behavior.  No doubt she was warned.  The second involved a member&#8217;s son who is known to be on drugs when he comes around.  He&#8217;s supposed to attend the Singles Ward meetings but his mom is in our Ward.  He is often engaged in inappropriate conversations with the young women in the Ward and has been warned on occasion to not engage in such conversations.  At one point one of the brothers went to hug the young man and the brother was struck and knocked out.  The young man (over 18 so he&#8217;s actually an adult) was escorted out of the building.  The brother who was struck didn&#8217;t press charges though he could have and would have been in his rights to do so.  Violence is never appropriate.</p>
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