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	Comments on: Why was the Church Handbook changed to exclude children of same-sex parents?	</title>
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		By: Hayden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hayden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2016 04:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Although I will not disobey, I do not have to agree.  I feel very bad for the treatment gay members receive at the hands of the Church and its leaders.  And I especially feel for the parents and grandparents (brothers and sisters, etc.) of gay children. I do not agree with the policy and I sincerely believe there is a better way to administer to gay members.  There has to be a place for them.   Just imagine if you are a parent of a gay child and you desire to keep your family unit together on this earth.  With the new Church policy, that is virtually impossible.  It is probably best if the gay child does not attend Church and I think that is a shame.   We have to do better in my opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I will not disobey, I do not have to agree.  I feel very bad for the treatment gay members receive at the hands of the Church and its leaders.  And I especially feel for the parents and grandparents (brothers and sisters, etc.) of gay children. I do not agree with the policy and I sincerely believe there is a better way to administer to gay members.  There has to be a place for them.   Just imagine if you are a parent of a gay child and you desire to keep your family unit together on this earth.  With the new Church policy, that is virtually impossible.  It is probably best if the gay child does not attend Church and I think that is a shame.   We have to do better in my opinion.</p>
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		By: FauxScience		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34547</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FauxScience]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 05:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34515&quot;&gt;JAGuar&lt;/a&gt;.

Certainly the decision wasn&#039;t based ONLY on factors like their parents race, sexual orientation or marital status?

Can someone explain exactly what inherent disability same gender couples possess that obviates responsible decision making for their own families? Why can Catholic parents make responsible blessing and baptism decisions for their children and Mormon parents cannot? There must be thousand of examples one can point too, just 2 or 3 will do. 

Any other child&#039;s parents can break every one of the 10 commandments and that child can get baptized at age 8. A child of a Catholic, Methodist, Satanist or atheist can have their child baptized at 8, but a legally married same sex couple cannot?

Why is same-sex marriage considered “apostasy” but same-sex cohabitation is only a “transgression”?

Why does the Handbook of Instruction distinguish between same-sex cohabitation and marriage but refer to polygamous relationships as “marriages”?  Was this intentional prophesy?

Why can an infant with a parent who has practiced polygamy be named on church records and receive a blessing but an infant with a parent who has practiced same-sex cohabitation or marriage cannot?

Why can minors with a parent who has practiced polygamy receive approval to be baptized and become church members but there is no such exception for minors with a parent who has practiced same-sex cohabitation or marriage?

In short, why is the Church coming down so hard on same-sex families than on polygamist families? What is the social or doctrinal motivation?

&quot;Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me, for of such is the Kingdom of Heaven;’ and He laid His hands upon them and blessed them. ALL little children, NO matter what their parentage may be, are innocent in the sight of heaven, and THEY should be RECEIVED as such and BLESSED as such.” - LDS Apostle George Q. Cannon

Regarding same gender marriage &quot;Pope Francis said that priests should NOT refuse baptism to anyone who asks for the sacrament. Speaking in a homily Sunday for the ordination of 19 new priests for the diocese of Rome, Francis told the new ministers: &quot;With baptism, you unite the new faithful to the People of God. It is NEVER necessary to refuse baptism to someone who asks for it.&quot;- National Catholic Register]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34515">JAGuar</a>.</p>
<p>Certainly the decision wasn&#8217;t based ONLY on factors like their parents race, sexual orientation or marital status?</p>
<p>Can someone explain exactly what inherent disability same gender couples possess that obviates responsible decision making for their own families? Why can Catholic parents make responsible blessing and baptism decisions for their children and Mormon parents cannot? There must be thousand of examples one can point too, just 2 or 3 will do. </p>
<p>Any other child&#8217;s parents can break every one of the 10 commandments and that child can get baptized at age 8. A child of a Catholic, Methodist, Satanist or atheist can have their child baptized at 8, but a legally married same sex couple cannot?</p>
<p>Why is same-sex marriage considered “apostasy” but same-sex cohabitation is only a “transgression”?</p>
<p>Why does the Handbook of Instruction distinguish between same-sex cohabitation and marriage but refer to polygamous relationships as “marriages”?  Was this intentional prophesy?</p>
<p>Why can an infant with a parent who has practiced polygamy be named on church records and receive a blessing but an infant with a parent who has practiced same-sex cohabitation or marriage cannot?</p>
<p>Why can minors with a parent who has practiced polygamy receive approval to be baptized and become church members but there is no such exception for minors with a parent who has practiced same-sex cohabitation or marriage?</p>
<p>In short, why is the Church coming down so hard on same-sex families than on polygamist families? What is the social or doctrinal motivation?</p>
<p>&#8220;Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me, for of such is the Kingdom of Heaven;’ and He laid His hands upon them and blessed them. ALL little children, NO matter what their parentage may be, are innocent in the sight of heaven, and THEY should be RECEIVED as such and BLESSED as such.” &#8211; LDS Apostle George Q. Cannon</p>
<p>Regarding same gender marriage &#8220;Pope Francis said that priests should NOT refuse baptism to anyone who asks for the sacrament. Speaking in a homily Sunday for the ordination of 19 new priests for the diocese of Rome, Francis told the new ministers: &#8220;With baptism, you unite the new faithful to the People of God. It is NEVER necessary to refuse baptism to someone who asks for it.&#8221;- National Catholic Register</p>
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		By: Robert Hollinger		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34539</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Hollinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34527&quot;&gt;Douglas Self&lt;/a&gt;.

The problem I have with your response is this; ROMANS 8:6-7;   6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  God gave us a heart where spiritual matters are understood, our brain is part of the carnal body which is of the earth and will never understand matters of the Spirit.  Only God can judge this issue and I have not heard our leaders say, that they have inquired of the Lord in any matter for many years.  Perhaps you should go back to Genesis and read how God created man: GENESIS 1:27;   27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. -- GENESIS 5:2;   2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called &quot;their&quot; name Adam, in the day when they were created.   (He called &quot;their&quot; name Adam and He created him, male and female?  Only God knows and no one, has the power or ability to judge on this matter!!  (Judge not least ye shall be judged!)  Just my heart felt opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34527">Douglas Self</a>.</p>
<p>The problem I have with your response is this; ROMANS 8:6-7;   6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.<br />
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:  God gave us a heart where spiritual matters are understood, our brain is part of the carnal body which is of the earth and will never understand matters of the Spirit.  Only God can judge this issue and I have not heard our leaders say, that they have inquired of the Lord in any matter for many years.  Perhaps you should go back to Genesis and read how God created man: GENESIS 1:27;   27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. &#8212; GENESIS 5:2;   2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called &#8220;their&#8221; name Adam, in the day when they were created.   (He called &#8220;their&#8221; name Adam and He created him, male and female?  Only God knows and no one, has the power or ability to judge on this matter!!  (Judge not least ye shall be judged!)  Just my heart felt opinion.</p>
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		By: Eve Olsen		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34533</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eve Olsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2015 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s imperative that if one is a Latter Day Saint, they accept the doctrine of the prophets being mouthpieces for the Lord, and then one utilizes their faith in all other aspects of the gospel. For example, God is no respecter of persons. That is an eternal truth of the nature of God. So one would have to believe/hope that God has given instructions to the first presidency on policy changes(letter of the law) in order to preserve the doctrine and to maintain the &quot;stone that will roll forth from the mountain&quot;. The Lord follows a pattern in preserving truth, by reading and studying the scriptures, this type of action and sacrifice being asked of us is testimony building and faith promoting. Doubting the church&#039;s policies because the men that lead us are human is not being obedient to church doctrine. To me, God established doctrine and instructs us on how to live it through the policies placed by the prophet and apostles. We are then invited to learn and know these policies, pray on them, and be lead and inspired by our own personal revelation in fulfilling callings and missionary work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s imperative that if one is a Latter Day Saint, they accept the doctrine of the prophets being mouthpieces for the Lord, and then one utilizes their faith in all other aspects of the gospel. For example, God is no respecter of persons. That is an eternal truth of the nature of God. So one would have to believe/hope that God has given instructions to the first presidency on policy changes(letter of the law) in order to preserve the doctrine and to maintain the &#8220;stone that will roll forth from the mountain&#8221;. The Lord follows a pattern in preserving truth, by reading and studying the scriptures, this type of action and sacrifice being asked of us is testimony building and faith promoting. Doubting the church&#8217;s policies because the men that lead us are human is not being obedient to church doctrine. To me, God established doctrine and instructs us on how to live it through the policies placed by the prophet and apostles. We are then invited to learn and know these policies, pray on them, and be lead and inspired by our own personal revelation in fulfilling callings and missionary work.</p>
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		By: Douglas Self		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34528</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas Self]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2015 23:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34507&quot;&gt;Antodav&lt;/a&gt;.

Hear, hear.  The Church has made it crystal clear that Supreme Court (mis)decisions, especially on the legality of same-sex so-called &#039;marriages&#039; and the duty of states to certify them (as bad as Roe v. Wave was in &#039;73), does not change what the Lord has said regarding marriage.


I suspect that if there were any legal difficulties should a gay couple be miffed at being rebuffed having their &#039;marriage&#039; solemnized by an LDS bishop or similar, and especially to not be performed in the Temple, that IF somehow the Church came out on the &#039;losing&#039; end (at least in mortality) of a legal tussle, the certifications of Church officials to perform marriages would be withdrawn and/or any Temple(s) affected would be closed, rather than give in.  Again, I don&#039;t &#039;steady the Ark&#039;, just musing based on what I&#039;ve seen in almost 37 years of Church membership.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34507">Antodav</a>.</p>
<p>Hear, hear.  The Church has made it crystal clear that Supreme Court (mis)decisions, especially on the legality of same-sex so-called &#8216;marriages&#8217; and the duty of states to certify them (as bad as Roe v. Wave was in &#8217;73), does not change what the Lord has said regarding marriage.</p>
<p>I suspect that if there were any legal difficulties should a gay couple be miffed at being rebuffed having their &#8216;marriage&#8217; solemnized by an LDS bishop or similar, and especially to not be performed in the Temple, that IF somehow the Church came out on the &#8216;losing&#8217; end (at least in mortality) of a legal tussle, the certifications of Church officials to perform marriages would be withdrawn and/or any Temple(s) affected would be closed, rather than give in.  Again, I don&#8217;t &#8216;steady the Ark&#8217;, just musing based on what I&#8217;ve seen in almost 37 years of Church membership.</p>
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		By: Douglas Self		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34527</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas Self]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2015 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34523&quot;&gt;Liz Perrott&lt;/a&gt;.

When said &quot;inclusion&quot; would inflict more harm on that child in that peculiar situation.  I highly doubt that the minor children of same-sex households are battering down the doors of LDS meetinghouses, clamoring to be baptized.  Would that were so!  Get off your high horse, dear.  The Good Lord gave us all brains to &quot;come, let us REASON together&quot;.  This is as much nonsense as the so-called &quot;peace&quot; activists (in reality, advocates of foolhardy unilateral disarmament) who decry those that say &quot;in times of peace, prepare for war&quot; (e.g., prepare for war and more likely the enemy leaves you alone, so you do have &quot;peace&quot;).  This policy, being the same as for children raised in polygamous households, shows common sense.  What I don&#039;t understand is why also children who are living in a heterosexual &#039;shackup&#039; situation weren&#039;t also subjected to this policy, since likewise they&#039;re being &#039;misled&#039; by their parents implicit example as to marriage vs. the Church.  But I find that it&#039;s best to not &#039;steady the Ark&#039;, so I&#039;ll let the Church decide if and when it should proceed as I suggest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34523">Liz Perrott</a>.</p>
<p>When said &#8220;inclusion&#8221; would inflict more harm on that child in that peculiar situation.  I highly doubt that the minor children of same-sex households are battering down the doors of LDS meetinghouses, clamoring to be baptized.  Would that were so!  Get off your high horse, dear.  The Good Lord gave us all brains to &#8220;come, let us REASON together&#8221;.  This is as much nonsense as the so-called &#8220;peace&#8221; activists (in reality, advocates of foolhardy unilateral disarmament) who decry those that say &#8220;in times of peace, prepare for war&#8221; (e.g., prepare for war and more likely the enemy leaves you alone, so you do have &#8220;peace&#8221;).  This policy, being the same as for children raised in polygamous households, shows common sense.  What I don&#8217;t understand is why also children who are living in a heterosexual &#8216;shackup&#8217; situation weren&#8217;t also subjected to this policy, since likewise they&#8217;re being &#8216;misled&#8217; by their parents implicit example as to marriage vs. the Church.  But I find that it&#8217;s best to not &#8216;steady the Ark&#8217;, so I&#8217;ll let the Church decide if and when it should proceed as I suggest.</p>
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		By: Liz Perrott		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34523</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Perrott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2015 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;Suffer the little children to come unto me&#039;........ How on earth can excluding any child be countenanced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Suffer the little children to come unto me&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;.. How on earth can excluding any child be countenanced.</p>
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		By: creative_dude		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34520</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[creative_dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 04:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Either of two different things can be the reason for the changes in the handbook.  One of those possible reasons would be one of policy.  Reason one, as outlined by gramps, is that those who have been chosen and prepared to lead the church have carefully and prayerfully made a policy decision.  These men are mortal not perfect.  They merely know the Gospel about 18,000 times as well as I do and have long used it to guide their lives. I sustain them because I believe them to have been called by the Lord.

The second possible reason for the changes would be a doctrine decision.  I do not believe that mortals make doctrine changes.

There is a bright and distinct line between feelings, opinions, and behavior of mortals and the truth. 

A different of thinking of the Lord&#039;s commandments is that these are the truths that he has revealed to us. To the extent that we understand them we should obey them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either of two different things can be the reason for the changes in the handbook.  One of those possible reasons would be one of policy.  Reason one, as outlined by gramps, is that those who have been chosen and prepared to lead the church have carefully and prayerfully made a policy decision.  These men are mortal not perfect.  They merely know the Gospel about 18,000 times as well as I do and have long used it to guide their lives. I sustain them because I believe them to have been called by the Lord.</p>
<p>The second possible reason for the changes would be a doctrine decision.  I do not believe that mortals make doctrine changes.</p>
<p>There is a bright and distinct line between feelings, opinions, and behavior of mortals and the truth. </p>
<p>A different of thinking of the Lord&#8217;s commandments is that these are the truths that he has revealed to us. To the extent that we understand them we should obey them.</p>
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		By: JAGuar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JAGuar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 15:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First off, we are talking about people who have entered into a same-sex MARRIAGE.  It is those who have entered into a same-sex MARRIAGE that now fall into the category of &quot;apostasy&quot; in the new policies.
No one enters into a marriage simply to &quot;test the waters&quot; and see if it will work out.  Nor does one enter into a marriage simply to get divorced.  Those who enter into marriage are in it for the long run.
If someone has a drinking problem, how do they repent?  Start living the Word of Wisdom.  If a couple is living out of wedlock, how do they repent?  Either they get married, or they separate until they can get married.  If one enters into a same-sex marriage, how do they repent?  Get a divorce???  When has the church ever encouraged divorce?  That&#039;s what makes the situation so difficult.
Those entering same-sex marriage are practically saying, &quot;This is how I am, and this is how I intend to STAY.  I don&#039;t care what the church&#039;s doctrines say about same-sex relationships.  I have no intentions on &#039;repenting&#039;.  In fact, I&#039;m going to sign my name to a legally binding contract to show the world that I WILL remain this way&quot;.
Does that not sound like &quot;apostasy&quot; in the truest sense of the word?
The church has, in a way, made it possible for children in that sort of circumstance to not have the accountability placed on them.  This is a protection more than a punishment.  If parents are in apostasy, they are also practically hypocrites for telling their children to live something they refuse to live.  It&#039;s a very hard situation for a child to live in, and it makes it more understandable as to why the church has declared that the children should be mature enough to disavow their parents sinful actions - not the parents themselves, but their actions ;-) .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, we are talking about people who have entered into a same-sex MARRIAGE.  It is those who have entered into a same-sex MARRIAGE that now fall into the category of &#8220;apostasy&#8221; in the new policies.<br />
No one enters into a marriage simply to &#8220;test the waters&#8221; and see if it will work out.  Nor does one enter into a marriage simply to get divorced.  Those who enter into marriage are in it for the long run.<br />
If someone has a drinking problem, how do they repent?  Start living the Word of Wisdom.  If a couple is living out of wedlock, how do they repent?  Either they get married, or they separate until they can get married.  If one enters into a same-sex marriage, how do they repent?  Get a divorce???  When has the church ever encouraged divorce?  That&#8217;s what makes the situation so difficult.<br />
Those entering same-sex marriage are practically saying, &#8220;This is how I am, and this is how I intend to STAY.  I don&#8217;t care what the church&#8217;s doctrines say about same-sex relationships.  I have no intentions on &#8216;repenting&#8217;.  In fact, I&#8217;m going to sign my name to a legally binding contract to show the world that I WILL remain this way&#8221;.<br />
Does that not sound like &#8220;apostasy&#8221; in the truest sense of the word?<br />
The church has, in a way, made it possible for children in that sort of circumstance to not have the accountability placed on them.  This is a protection more than a punishment.  If parents are in apostasy, they are also practically hypocrites for telling their children to live something they refuse to live.  It&#8217;s a very hard situation for a child to live in, and it makes it more understandable as to why the church has declared that the children should be mature enough to disavow their parents sinful actions &#8211; not the parents themselves, but their actions ;-) .</p>
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		By: Horace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Horace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2015 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the Doctrine and Covenants the instruction to baptize children when they are eight years old is specifically given to parents in Zion, parents who are teaching their children to have faith in Christ. If this is not so, then the sin be on the heads of the parents (D&#038;C 25-27).  This standard is not always necessarily considered when determining if it is appropriate to baptize a child, and priesthood holders with keys (bishops/branch presidents/mission presidents) have a degree of latitude. However the President of the Church, holding all the keys of the priesthood apparently has determined that people in homosexual marriages, being in such open rebellion against Christ, his revealed religion, commandments, and servants, do not and cannot meet this requirement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Doctrine and Covenants the instruction to baptize children when they are eight years old is specifically given to parents in Zion, parents who are teaching their children to have faith in Christ. If this is not so, then the sin be on the heads of the parents (D&amp;C 25-27).  This standard is not always necessarily considered when determining if it is appropriate to baptize a child, and priesthood holders with keys (bishops/branch presidents/mission presidents) have a degree of latitude. However the President of the Church, holding all the keys of the priesthood apparently has determined that people in homosexual marriages, being in such open rebellion against Christ, his revealed religion, commandments, and servants, do not and cannot meet this requirement.</p>
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		By: Antodav		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/why-was-the-church-handbook-changed-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-parents/#comment-34507</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antodav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The church&#039;s reasoning for its decisions ought to be amply obvious. Those who are objecting to it are being willfully ignorant and just using this as an excuse to cover their larger opposition to the Church&#039;s teachings on morality in general. They are mad that the Church refuses to become more socially liberal. I am grateful that it never will. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The church&#8217;s reasoning for its decisions ought to be amply obvious. Those who are objecting to it are being willfully ignorant and just using this as an excuse to cover their larger opposition to the Church&#8217;s teachings on morality in general. They are mad that the Church refuses to become more socially liberal. I am grateful that it never will. </p>
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