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	Comments on: Is there DNA evidence between Native Americans and the Lamanites?	</title>
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		By: Horace		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 09:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have always found it interesting that people have a very difficult time reconciling the Book of Mormon and the prophet Joseph Smith.  If he received it and translated as he described, then it is the most important piece of literature produced since the New Testament.  If he wrote it himself, then he is a fraud, a huckster, a charlatan, and an absolute literary genius.  Those who accept the book as divine don&#039;t believe Joseph was much of a fiction writer. Those who believe it is a product of a corrupted, deceiving, lying mind dismiss it as a work of deception without holding it up as a monumental work of human achievement.  Nobody can come to know truth of the Book of Mormon by excavating jungle sites, because that&#039;s not the kind of thing it is. If it true it is to be discovered by the Holy Ghost.  If it is not true than it at least ought to be appreciated for the masterpiece it is, and the genius is requires.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always found it interesting that people have a very difficult time reconciling the Book of Mormon and the prophet Joseph Smith.  If he received it and translated as he described, then it is the most important piece of literature produced since the New Testament.  If he wrote it himself, then he is a fraud, a huckster, a charlatan, and an absolute literary genius.  Those who accept the book as divine don&#8217;t believe Joseph was much of a fiction writer. Those who believe it is a product of a corrupted, deceiving, lying mind dismiss it as a work of deception without holding it up as a monumental work of human achievement.  Nobody can come to know truth of the Book of Mormon by excavating jungle sites, because that&#8217;s not the kind of thing it is. If it true it is to be discovered by the Holy Ghost.  If it is not true than it at least ought to be appreciated for the masterpiece it is, and the genius is requires.</p>
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		By: abbie		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/dna-evidence-native-americans-lamanites/#comment-34987</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2016 09:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/dna-evidence-native-americans-lamanites/#comment-34953&quot;&gt;FirstEqual&lt;/a&gt;.

So all the church teachings of it being in Meso America are un true? I am not sure that there can be any proof, you have no way of ever proving it, say you do find middle eastern DNA in a native american sample, can we know its not a Phoenician trading vesssel gone horriblly awry? Or that They didnt send explorers out? Then there is the problem of Lehi and his merry band of under 20 showing up on the coast of America, being so proficient at breeding that their ancestors eventually trekked 1000 miles in land and becan breeding with indiginous people, wasnt breeding with dark skinned people prohibited by God back then? 

All of the battles, no evidence has turned up for it either in Meso America or Nebraska. I am not sure we can look at BOM as a depiction of actual events, but more a collection of faith promoting allegories and tales]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/dna-evidence-native-americans-lamanites/#comment-34953">FirstEqual</a>.</p>
<p>So all the church teachings of it being in Meso America are un true? I am not sure that there can be any proof, you have no way of ever proving it, say you do find middle eastern DNA in a native american sample, can we know its not a Phoenician trading vesssel gone horriblly awry? Or that They didnt send explorers out? Then there is the problem of Lehi and his merry band of under 20 showing up on the coast of America, being so proficient at breeding that their ancestors eventually trekked 1000 miles in land and becan breeding with indiginous people, wasnt breeding with dark skinned people prohibited by God back then? </p>
<p>All of the battles, no evidence has turned up for it either in Meso America or Nebraska. I am not sure we can look at BOM as a depiction of actual events, but more a collection of faith promoting allegories and tales</p>
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		By: FirstEqual		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/dna-evidence-native-americans-lamanites/#comment-34953</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2016 12:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good points, but the problem is looking in the wrong place (Mesoamerica). Like Robert says, look into the North American setting (heartland) and you&#039;ll find better answers to the questions you&#039;re raising.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, but the problem is looking in the wrong place (Mesoamerica). Like Robert says, look into the North American setting (heartland) and you&#8217;ll find better answers to the questions you&#8217;re raising.</p>
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		By: S		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/dna-evidence-native-americans-lamanites/#comment-34950</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2016 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/dna-evidence-native-americans-lamanites/#comment-34941&quot;&gt;Robert&lt;/a&gt;.

I reviewed your information.  And it does not support your claims in the least.  Just another attempt to use science when it seems convenient and to deny science when it does not support your hypothesis.   We need to stop lying to people about this subject.  It just is not true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/dna-evidence-native-americans-lamanites/#comment-34941">Robert</a>.</p>
<p>I reviewed your information.  And it does not support your claims in the least.  Just another attempt to use science when it seems convenient and to deny science when it does not support your hypothesis.   We need to stop lying to people about this subject.  It just is not true.</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Plenty of evidence.  Just look up Haplogroup X (mtDNA) in Wikipedia, or any 
other source.  This is one of the strongest pieces of evidence that the 
Book of Mormon events took place in the American heartland, and not in 
Central America as so many have believed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty of evidence.  Just look up Haplogroup X (mtDNA) in Wikipedia, or any<br />
other source.  This is one of the strongest pieces of evidence that the<br />
Book of Mormon events took place in the American heartland, and not in<br />
Central America as so many have believed.</p>
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