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	Comments on: I&#8217;m gay.  Is it fair to have to live my entire life with no one?	</title>
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		By: Rae H.		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35911</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rae H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The LDS church believes that the gender we are born with is reflective of the gender of our spirits, and is essential to our eternal destiny. There are some very rare cases in which the physical gender is indeterminate even to our modern science, and clarification would need to be sought with the help of revelation and guidance from an authorized priesthood authority.

The Lord loves all his children, but most of us experience excruciating mental, emotional, or physical pain in our lives. The life-long damage of physical and sexual abuse, debilitating mental-illnesses and the lasting emotional scarring that comes from experiencing or witnessing extreme violence... these are all things that millions of his children live with every day of their lives. These are often private suffering, and it is easy for us to look around us and assume that others go through their lives unscarred.

It is simply not true.

The crucible of suffering is how we can become sanctified, and learn to rely wholly on the Lord--often because we are simply in more pain than we can endure, and cannot go on without him. 

Sometimes the most difficult situation for us to be in is the one we MUST be in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The LDS church believes that the gender we are born with is reflective of the gender of our spirits, and is essential to our eternal destiny. There are some very rare cases in which the physical gender is indeterminate even to our modern science, and clarification would need to be sought with the help of revelation and guidance from an authorized priesthood authority.</p>
<p>The Lord loves all his children, but most of us experience excruciating mental, emotional, or physical pain in our lives. The life-long damage of physical and sexual abuse, debilitating mental-illnesses and the lasting emotional scarring that comes from experiencing or witnessing extreme violence&#8230; these are all things that millions of his children live with every day of their lives. These are often private suffering, and it is easy for us to look around us and assume that others go through their lives unscarred.</p>
<p>It is simply not true.</p>
<p>The crucible of suffering is how we can become sanctified, and learn to rely wholly on the Lord&#8211;often because we are simply in more pain than we can endure, and cannot go on without him. </p>
<p>Sometimes the most difficult situation for us to be in is the one we MUST be in.</p>
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		By: Steve Donnelly		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35870</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Donnelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2017 04:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find if we serve others our own issues have a way of disappearing, everyone has there own trials and others advice may or may not fit each situation, but if we lean towards our heavenly father, wow what a miracle it is to be unconditionally loved, by our savior, don&#039;t rely on the wisdom of men but trust the one we all are indebted to, this is the answer to most of your difficulties, whether your single, widowed or divorced, just keep the bond you have with the one that can make a difference and serve those around you, get lost in the work and time will fly and mircles will happen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find if we serve others our own issues have a way of disappearing, everyone has there own trials and others advice may or may not fit each situation, but if we lean towards our heavenly father, wow what a miracle it is to be unconditionally loved, by our savior, don&#8217;t rely on the wisdom of men but trust the one we all are indebted to, this is the answer to most of your difficulties, whether your single, widowed or divorced, just keep the bond you have with the one that can make a difference and serve those around you, get lost in the work and time will fly and mircles will happen</p>
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		By: Gregg Hammerquist		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35847</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregg Hammerquist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a gay Mormon myself I can second Gramps message here.  mormonandgay.org is a great resource.

Another place, not run by the church, is northstarlds.org.  You&#039;ll find a community there who are likewise striving to live the commandments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a gay Mormon myself I can second Gramps message here.  mormonandgay.org is a great resource.</p>
<p>Another place, not run by the church, is northstarlds.org.  You&#8217;ll find a community there who are likewise striving to live the commandments.</p>
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		By: Gregg Hammerquist		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35846</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregg Hammerquist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35768&quot;&gt;Ivy&lt;/a&gt;.

Which is worse: seeking out a partner and being rejected your whole life or being free to pursue other things knowing you won&#039;t have one?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35768">Ivy</a>.</p>
<p>Which is worse: seeking out a partner and being rejected your whole life or being free to pursue other things knowing you won&#8217;t have one?</p>
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		By: Gregg Hammerquist		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35845</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregg Hammerquist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are we alone, though?  We live in a world of 6 billion+ people.  Being celibate doesn&#039;t deny one the chance for love.  Love is important but what humans really need is purpose.  That can be gained regardless of marital status.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we alone, though?  We live in a world of 6 billion+ people.  Being celibate doesn&#8217;t deny one the chance for love.  Love is important but what humans really need is purpose.  That can be gained regardless of marital status.</p>
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		By: Gregg Hammerquist		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35844</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregg Hammerquist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35790&quot;&gt;Wax&lt;/a&gt;.

Many people are in daily pain.  It happens all of the time.  But as stated, adversity and pain can be transformed into glorious gain.  One gains insight, love, compassion, etc.  that makes us better people.  Or you could wallow in how horrible one&#039;s got it.  Your choice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35790">Wax</a>.</p>
<p>Many people are in daily pain.  It happens all of the time.  But as stated, adversity and pain can be transformed into glorious gain.  One gains insight, love, compassion, etc.  that makes us better people.  Or you could wallow in how horrible one&#8217;s got it.  Your choice.</p>
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		By: Wax		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35791</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35758&quot;&gt;Helene Mather&lt;/a&gt;.

Helene, then you&#039;re not living the commandments of god...he commanded us to cleave to a man or a woman.  I think its pretty sad that a person is forcing him or herself to be celibate when being attracted in your case to the opposite is suppressed...find a man and enjoy the fullness of life, or you may one day find yourself in deeper trouble by doing something you&#039;ll regret...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35758">Helene Mather</a>.</p>
<p>Helene, then you&#8217;re not living the commandments of god&#8230;he commanded us to cleave to a man or a woman.  I think its pretty sad that a person is forcing him or herself to be celibate when being attracted in your case to the opposite is suppressed&#8230;find a man and enjoy the fullness of life, or you may one day find yourself in deeper trouble by doing something you&#8217;ll regret&#8230;</p>
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		By: Wax		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35790</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a son who was born a female, he is in pain and anguish every single day of his life.  He&#039;s been like this since day one and tell me he can change is boloney.  How could God do this to a human being?  My heart breaks for him 24-7 and its very, very challenging.  To say Christ will relieve his pain is nonsense...I&#039;m sorry but I&#039;m giving you reality...his world is horrible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a son who was born a female, he is in pain and anguish every single day of his life.  He&#8217;s been like this since day one and tell me he can change is boloney.  How could God do this to a human being?  My heart breaks for him 24-7 and its very, very challenging.  To say Christ will relieve his pain is nonsense&#8230;I&#8217;m sorry but I&#8217;m giving you reality&#8230;his world is horrible.</p>
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		By: Ivy		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35768</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2017 03:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35749&quot;&gt;Kristie Partridge&lt;/a&gt;.

I think there is a difference because they are free to seek it out, where as the gay individual can&#039;t even do that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35749">Kristie Partridge</a>.</p>
<p>I think there is a difference because they are free to seek it out, where as the gay individual can&#8217;t even do that.</p>
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		By: alaskan59		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35767</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alaskan59]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2017 00:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would like to add to Helene &#038; any others, but my dad was killed in 1976 &#038; my mom never found anyone to love her again, so from the age of 49 till she died at 83, she was celibate.. I know, you&#039;re thinking, &quot;well at least she/they had someone once to be imitate with&quot;, You&#039;re right, I don&#039;t know, but maybe that could be harder...? I also have a good friend who is LDS &#038; gay &#038; as far as I know, he has been celibate his whole life, as I found out after we lost touch with each other. He let me know that he is temple worthy &#038; had a primary calling, so... I still would have loved him, regardless. We don&#039;t get to see each other anymore, except on FB, so I wouldn&#039;t feel comfortable asking those kind of questions. But, like Gramps said, there are many resources for you. Anyway, I pray for you &#038; all others who have demons to deal with like that, man...bless you sweetheart]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add to Helene &amp; any others, but my dad was killed in 1976 &amp; my mom never found anyone to love her again, so from the age of 49 till she died at 83, she was celibate.. I know, you&#8217;re thinking, &#8220;well at least she/they had someone once to be imitate with&#8221;, You&#8217;re right, I don&#8217;t know, but maybe that could be harder&#8230;? I also have a good friend who is LDS &amp; gay &amp; as far as I know, he has been celibate his whole life, as I found out after we lost touch with each other. He let me know that he is temple worthy &amp; had a primary calling, so&#8230; I still would have loved him, regardless. We don&#8217;t get to see each other anymore, except on FB, so I wouldn&#8217;t feel comfortable asking those kind of questions. But, like Gramps said, there are many resources for you. Anyway, I pray for you &amp; all others who have demons to deal with like that, man&#8230;bless you sweetheart</p>
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		By: Helene Mather		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helene Mather]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2017 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John, I&#039;m not gay and neither do I pretend to know what you are going through. I was married for ten years and have been divorce for 9. I do not see myself ever getting married again so celibacy is what I have to become accustomed to. Do I miss the intimacy, yes. Do I think it&#039;s fair that I have to pay because of an abusive, alcoholic and porn addicted spouse? Not really. Im 42 and the idea of never being intimate again bothers me in a sense that Im afraid of my standing in the church. In my stronger celibate moments I feel there is more to me than being with a partner. My ministry fullfills me. Maybe I am using that to fill a void. Either way we all have that one thing that is bigger than us. So I have to rely that only God can help me get through. That He ultimately gets the bigger picture for my life and I have to trust and obey.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I&#8217;m not gay and neither do I pretend to know what you are going through. I was married for ten years and have been divorce for 9. I do not see myself ever getting married again so celibacy is what I have to become accustomed to. Do I miss the intimacy, yes. Do I think it&#8217;s fair that I have to pay because of an abusive, alcoholic and porn addicted spouse? Not really. Im 42 and the idea of never being intimate again bothers me in a sense that Im afraid of my standing in the church. In my stronger celibate moments I feel there is more to me than being with a partner. My ministry fullfills me. Maybe I am using that to fill a void. Either way we all have that one thing that is bigger than us. So I have to rely that only God can help me get through. That He ultimately gets the bigger picture for my life and I have to trust and obey.</p>
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		By: Sharee		</title>
		<link>https://askgramps.org/im-gay-is-it-fair-to-have-to-live-my-entire-life-with-no-one/#comment-35755</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2017 02:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a 75-year-old single heterosexual woman. If I can live without someone, so can you. You just have to have faith that everything will work out in the next life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a 75-year-old single heterosexual woman. If I can live without someone, so can you. You just have to have faith that everything will work out in the next life.</p>
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